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"IR-17 KRONPRINZ" MILITARY HISTORY GROUP
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ABOUT THE GROUP
The "IR17 - Kronprinz" re-enactment group was a group of devotees interested in historic uniforms and military history. It was formed by A.J. Potocnik in 2003. In 2008 it was incorporated as a "IR17 History Association", under the leadership of Marko Negrieski. This site is devoted to the first five pioneering years. ... First to adorn colours of the 17th Infantry Regiment of "Kranjski Janezi" from Ljubljana were in January 2003 Janze Klun, Bogdan Vitez and Aleksander J.Potocnik. The activity was interrupted when the first two joined Slovenian Army, after it has been professionalised.
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O SKUPINI
Ponazoritvena skupina "IR-17 - Cesarjevic" je bila skupina ljubiteljev starih uniform in vojaske zgodovine. Leta 2003 jo je zbral A.J. Potocnik. Leta 2008 se je uradno registrirana kot "Zgodovinsko drustvo IR17" pod vodstvom Marka Negrieskega. Ta stran je posvecena petim pionirskim letom. ... Prvi, ki smo si januarja leta 2003 nadeli barve 17. pespolka "kranjskih Janezov" iz Ljubljane smo bili Janze Klun, Bogdan Vitez in Saso A.J.P. Dejavnost je prekinila profesionalizacija Slovenske vojske, ki sta se ji prva od nastetih treh takoj pridruzila.
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Founding members of the IR17 Re-enactment Group photographed at the reunion for the Mrzli vrh Memorial in the year 2004. From left to right: Bogdan Vitez, Janze Klun and A.J. Potocnik, then Oberleutnant iTR. At the time there was no source of historic uniforms and equipment. So from the very start the group relied heavily on support of brave tailor and leather maker Roman Androjna, who made scores of uniforms and pieces of equipment. |
Ustanovni clani skupine IR17 (z desne proti levi): Bogdan Vitez, Janze Klun in A.J. Potocnik, posneti na ponovnem snidenju na Mrzlem vrhu leta 2004.
Takrat se ni bilo mogoce nikjer dobiti replik zgodovinskih uniform in opreme. zato se je skupina ze od samega zacetka zanasala na pomoc izvrstnega krojaca in usnjarja Romana Androjno, ki je zanjo naredil serijo uniform in stevilne kose opreme. |
| Meeting on Pohorje in 2003 was the first attempt to popularise WW1 re-enactment activity in Slovenia. While colleagues from Prague offered their wholehearted support, little of that was given by local colleagues - something that in the forthcoming years was, regrettably, to become a rule rather than exception. | Srecanje na Pohorju leta 2003 je bil prvi poskus popularizacije ponazoritev prve svetovne vojne v Sloveniji. Medtem ko so kolegi iz Prage sirokosrcno ponudili svojo pomoc, kaj takega ni bilo mogoce reci za kolege iz bliznjih krajev - nekaj, kar je v naslednjih letih zal postalo prej pravilo, kot izjema. |
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May 8th and 9th 2004 saw the debut of the renewed group. It's majority formed the members of "Zalar's Baon". As they soon devoted themselves to formation of new groups, such as "Patriot" and "Triglav", the next phase was characterised by fluctuating membership. The activity was kept alive mainly thanks to the members of Ros family: Marjan, Silva and Tjasa.
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8. in 9. maja se je javnosti prvic predstavila prenovljena skupina, katere vecino so tedaj tvorili clani "Zalarjevega roja". Ker so se le-ti kmalu posvetili formiranju novih skupin, kot sta "Patriot" in "Triglav", je bila za naslednje obdobje znacilna fluktuacija clanstva. Skupina je nadaljevala z delom predvsem zahvaljujoc clanom druzine Ros.
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| "Zalar's Baon" in Redipuglia in May 2004. | "Zalarjev roj" v Sredipolju maja 2004. |
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Year 2005 was marked by establishment of contacts with groups "BiH IR No1" from Prague, "IR49" from Vienna and "Isonzo Armee Kommando" from Ljubljana. Despite their work obligations the two founding members, Janze Klun and Bogdan Vitez found some time to join us again for Redipuglia event.
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Leto 2005 je zaznamovala vzpostavitev sodelovanja s skupinami in drustvi "BiH IR No1" iz Prage, "IR49" z Dunaja in "Isonzo Armee Kommando" iz Ljubljane. Dva ustanovna clana, Janze Klun in Bogdan Vitez sta kljub stevilnim obveznostim uspela najti cas, da se nam spet pridruzita v Sredipolju.
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In 2006 other important things happened. We were joined by Korporal iTR Klement Mal and Zugsfuhrer iTR Marko Negrieski with his daughter Tjasa. Branko Pogladic and Bostjan Bacer, members of "Zalar's Baon", became active again as well. The last who strengthened our numbers that year were Veljko Spacapan and Miha Eric. The rebirth of the group was demonstrated on trails to Krn Lake and above Vitovlje.
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Leta 2006 se je zvrstilo se vec pomembnih dogodkov. Pridruzili so se nam korporal-iTR Klement Mal ter zugsfuhrer-iTR Marko Negrieski s svojo hcerjo Tjaso. Ponovno sta postala dejavna tudi clana "Zalarjevega roja" Brane Pogladic in Bostjan Bacer. Zadnja, ki je tega leta "uradno" okrepila nase vrste, sta bila Veljko Spacapan in Miha Eric. Preporod skupine je bil opazen na pohodih na Krnsko jezero in nad Vitovlje.
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| With His Imperial Highness Otto von Habsburg in Pocking in September 2007. | Z njegovo cesarsko visokostjo, Otonom Habsburskim, v Pockingu septembra 2007. |
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What makes us especially proud is the fact that our activity was endorsed by the last nameholder of the actual 17th Infantry Regiment, the last Crown Prince of Austria-Hungary, his excellency, Archduke Otto von Habsburg, whom we had honour to meet in person at his home Vila Austria near Munich on September 15, 2007. For all of us this was an outstanding and very emotional occasion.
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Na kar smo se posebej ponosni, je vzpodbuda, ki jo je nasemu udejstvovanju izrazil zadnji lastnik dejanskega 17. pespolka, nekdanji avstro-ogrski prestolonaslednik, njegova visokost, nadvojvoda Oto Habsburski. Osebno smo ga imeli cast srecati 15. septembra 2007, ko nas je sprejel na avdijenco v svoji vili Austria nedalec od Munchna. Za vse nas je bilo to srecanje izjemen dogodek.
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| IR17 Re-enactment Group, by now already IR17 History Association parading in the centre of Ljubljana in 2008. | Skupina IR17, zdaj ze Zgodovinsko drustvo IR17 leta 2008, na nastopu v srediscu Ljubljane. |
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In October 2007 the administrative duties were taken over by Marko Negrieski, who has been promoted to Fanrich (iTR). He took care that in 2008 the group was officially registered as History Association IR17. On February 20, 2010 in Kerneuburg near Vienna Marko Negrieski faced the panel composed of representatives of different re-enactment groups. He successfully passed a "traditional officer's exam", obtained a rank of Lieutenant iTR and thus also officially took over the command of the "Traditional Regiment IR17" The top photography showing group during it's audience with Dr. von Habsburg was taken by Milan Eric. The group photo at the bottom of the page was taken on July 1st 2007 in Tivoli Park in Ljubljana by Rafael marn. The two photographs below it were taken on May 9th 2004 and November 6th 2005 at Monte Sei Busi on Karst (Carso, Kras) plateau near Redipuglia by Gianni Sclaunich of Monfalcone. Find more about re-enactment events here >>> |
Oktobra 2007 je administrativno vodenje ponazoritvene skupine prevzel Marko Negrieski, ki je ob tej priloznosti napredoval v praporscaka (iTR). Poskrbel je, da se je leta 2008 skupina uradno organizirala v Zgodovinsko drustvo IR17. 20. februarja 2010 je Marko Negrieski v mestecu Kerneuburg pri Dunaju pred komisijo, sestavljeno iz predstavnikov razlicnih ponazoritvenih drustev in uspesno opravil zgodovinsko-castniski izpit, pridobil castniski cin porocnika in s tem tudi uradno prevzel "poveljstvo zgodovinskega 17. pespolka". Vrhnjo fotografijo skupine z Dr. von Habsburgom med sprejemom na njegovem domu je posnel Milan Eric. Spodnjo je 1. julija 2007 v ljubljanskem Tivoliju posnel Rafael marn. Nizji fotografiji, na kateri je skupina posneta 8. maja 2004 in 6. novembra 2005 na Grizi na Krasu blizu Sredipolja, je naredil Gianni Sclaunich iz Trzica (Monfalcone).
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